Just Not Trying Very Hard, Or At It?

This is what I found with one google search, including copying and pasting time, it took me 5 minutes…

“If the two parts of the United Kingdom are in agreement that it is in accord with their constitutional arrangement, written or unwritten, Spain would have nothing to say. We would simply maintain that it does not affect us.

The constitutional arrangements of the United Kingdom are one thing, those of Spain another, and it is their own business if they decide to separate from one another.”

– Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo

Spain would have no objection to Scotland rejoining the European Union as an independent nation, as long as the secession process from the United Kingdom was legally binding, Spanish foreign minister Josep Borrell said on Tuesday.

And again…

In a letter obtained from the newspaper ‘The National’, Spanish Consul General in Edinburgh, Miguel Angel Vecino Quintana confirms that Spain “will not block Scotland’s entry into the European Union if independence is legally achieved.”

The statement follows the line that has already been confirmed by Foreign Minister Josep Borrell, who in an interview with ‘Politico’ said that in the case of an agreement between London and Edinburgh to hold a referendum, and that referendum for Scottish independence passes, Madrid would recognize the new independent Scotland.

Even in the Guardian…

Spain has said it would not veto an attempt by an independent Scotland to join the EU, in a boost to Nicola Sturgeon’s campaign for a second independence referendum and the clearest sign yet that Brexit has softened Madrid’s longstanding opposition to Scottish independence.

Alfonso Dastis, the Spanish foreign minister, made it clear that the government would not block an independent Scotland’s EU hopes, although he stressed that Madrid would not welcome the disintegration of the UK.

However, cut to the BBC and all this seems to have passed them by.

Oh, and the bit about the Euro and the deficit is not true either…


  1. One of the most recent countries to sign up to the EU was Croatia in 2013. Their deficit in 2013 was 5.3%. They applied to join in 2003, during which time their deficit varied between 2.4 and 7.9 percent. Even Brewer picked up Rachel Watson on this. The reality is that its not a condition for joining – these are contained in the Copenhagen Principles which say nothing about finance, but a lot about democracy and human rights. The reality is that Scotland – assuming nothing changes (and I wonder how long it will be before someone asks the question of why WM runs things so badly that our deficit is of that scale) would get a letter and we would be expected to produce a plan showing how the deficit would be reduced. They only get really annoyed if you are stupid enough to join the Euro. Alternatively, if joining the EU is too difficult, we could join EFTA and sign up to the EEA, as well as signing a Customs Union agreement. This would give access to the Single Market, frictionless trade, freedom of movement etc – but not membership of the Common Fisheries Policy. Just think, Norway, Scotland and Iceland between them would control almost all the fish stocks of the North Atlantic. Would that not buy us a few friends?

    1. I cannot but ask; with Scotland in the EU, or even in the EEA, and England out, does that not imply a hard border?

      As I see it, the coming UK crashout will make an independent Scotland at once more probable, and more problematic.

      And, as always, there’s the tricky question of currency.

      1. I suppose that depends on how “hard” a border rUK might want. There is the Ed Miliband, fences, sojers and dugs version, but there is also the Norway/ Sweden version which is much more amenable to the maintenance of trade.
        In what sense if currency problematic? That the pound could well sink like a stone out of the EU, and with a Scottish currency, no longer benefiting from oil/ gas companies demanding sterling to pay their tax liabilities.
        I’m sure that someone could come back at this, pointing out that Scotland would face a downside in both, but that’s the point – there is a downside for both sides, though you would struggle to realise this just reading/ listening to the msm

      2. In 2018 Scotland exported 826 million litres of Scotch, a hard border collects the duty on every millilitre. What’s not to,like?

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