Richard is now the consulting editor of The National, but was also involved in the formation of that paper and the decision made at the Sunday Herald to begin openly supporting Scottish independence.
We talked about those decisions and why they were made,and how The National has been getting on.
As well as that, we tried to get our heads around some of the unusual media appointments that have been made recently, and what could or should be done about the media in Scotland more generally.
And of course, I asked Richard why he supports Independence for Scotland.
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