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Or as Peter Capaldi in “The Thick of It” might have said, “Either fucking stay in the fucking union, or fuck the fuck off”
Hi Kim,
Nice to see you here again.
I think some of the media might say it that way but I don’t think Westminster types would. They are out to stop this.
Then there’s the Ed Miliband version: “Do you want to follow Alessandro Mussalmondolini and the Scottish Lega Nord, or wouldn’t you rather join with me and other genuine centre-leftists who are almost distinguishable from the right?”
What true democratic choices those are.
Meanwhile, here in Ireland, “referendum” is also the word on the lips of everyone. The government wants to ratify the new European Fiscal Compact and is desperately hoping a referendum will not be required to do so. The Attorney General is expected to give a ruling on the matter very soon (though, if the AG claims no referendum is required, the decision will be challenged in the High Courts).
Members of the government have been appearing in the media to dismiss the need for a referendum. Most recently, our transport minister stunned the nation with his pronouncement that the problem with a referendum is that it’s “not democratic”. I expect the same kind of nonsense will begin to emerge from the “No to Independence” camp in Scotland.
Hi Jim,
Our democratic leaders seem to find it very annoying when there is a possibility that real democracy will break out.
I thought referendums on European financial matters were relatively simple and convenient. When the public gives the wrong answer, you just keep on doing what you’re doing and asking them about it until they get it right.
I believe that is how they traditionally go.
Well, that’s definitely the traditional model. But nobody is quite sure the Irish population will go with tradition this time around. The circumstances have changed somewhat.