YOUR ANCESTORS WERE SHEEP

22 05 2007

Mine were apes. Here is a little film (1 minute) I made on the subject.

There is a major attack on science at the moment. Nonsense like ‘The Great Global Warming Swindle’[1] is being passed off as a serious piece of work. Some people are eager to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon and believe it - which conveniently makes them forget that the major conspiracy is the one that has been attempting to cover up the full effects of global warming and the changes that are already taking place.

Climate science is not the only area this is happening. Evolution has been under attack for a long time in the USA and being replaced by intelligent design ‘theory’. Science is being replaced by blind faith.

The consequences of this could not be more serious. If this is allowed to stand we could be back to burning witches and believing the earth is flat before we know it. Blind belief makes a hypocrite of anyone who has it, no matter what it is they profess to believe. As the documentary I have posted below points out, debating intelligent design on its scientific merits gives it the propaganda victory that its proponents want. The idea that they are two competing scientific theories is false.

‘It is a lie to say that in America intelligent design is getting a hold, it is not getting a hold in the scientific community [or] in the intellectual community. It’s getting a hold only among those parts of the population that don’t know anything.’ - Richard Dawkins

Generally, the same people that believe in Intelligent Design are the same people that ‘believe’ in George Bush[2]. Did they believe in Bush when he said that his friend was doing a ‘heck of a job’ in New Orleans? Did they believe him when he sacked him? Did they believe Tony Blair when he said he didn’t like trident? Did they believe him when he said he wants to update it?[3]

The obvious response to this line of questioning is to say that circumstances change but the problem with this kind of belief is that it never changes according to circumstances.

At first glance it looks like the attacks on global warming and intelligent design are unrelated but I can’t help thinking there is a bigger game being played here.

Some of those true believers, the Discovery Institute, stated it openly…

“The social consequences of materialism have been devastating. As symptoms, those consequences are certainly worth treating. However, we are convinced that in order to defeat materialism, we must cut it off at its source. That source is scientific materialism. This is precisely our strategy. If we view the predominant materialistic science as a giant tree, our strategy is intended to function as a “wedge” that, while relatively small, can split the trunk when applied at its weakest points. The very beginning of this strategy, the “thin edge of the wedge,” was Phillip Johnson’s critique of Darwinism begun in 1991 in Darwinism on Trial, and continued in Reason in the Balance and Defeating Darwinism by Opening Minds. Michael Behe’s highly successful Darwin’s Black Box followed Johnson’s work. We are building on this momentum, broadening the wedge with a positive scientific alternative to materialistic scientific theories, which has come to be called the theory of intelligent design (ID). Design theory promises to reverse the stifling dominance of the materialist worldview, and to replace it with a science consonant with Christian and theistic convictions.”

They are a combination of an attack dog, a lobby group and a think tank. They go on to say…

“Once our research and writing have had time to mature, and the public prepared for the reception of design theory, we will move toward direct confrontation with the advocates of materialist science through challenge conferences in significant academic settings. We will also pursue possible legal assistance in response to resistance to the integration of design theory into public school science curricula. The attention, publicity, and influence of design theory should draw scientific materialists into open debate with design theorists, and we will be ready. With an added emphasis to the social sciences and humanities, we will begin to address the specific social consequences of materialism and the Darwinist theory that supports it in the sciences.”

It is all very scary stuff. Please watch the following documentaries…

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-7630851222567912489

The above was the link for one of them. It seems to have been removed from Google video. Keep trying. It was broadcast on UK tv and was called ‘God’s Next Army’. It focused heavily on Patrick Henry ‘College’ where the students are groomed to go directly into top government positions.

Here is another…

[1] Please follow any or all of these links relating to that documentary…

Climate Change : An Inconvenient Truth for channel 4

Channel 4’s Problem With Science

Climate Sceptic Alert

The Real Climate Censorship

[2] This is not an accident. Pat Robertson wanted to gain effective control of the Republican party for the christian movement. In effect it has happened the other way round.

[3] In Blair’s resignation speech when he said we may disagree with him but we are not allowed to question that he really believed he was right…contradictions and all. I can think of a few dictators that thought that way.

UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE

If anyone wants to know, I went to catholic school and was told at 6 years old I was going to hell which at that age frightened the life out of me and then at ten years old I was told that I was the boy in the class most likely to be a priest. Consequently, I began to find the whole thing somewhat absurd.

I have no religious beliefs now but I believe there are good parts and bad parts in all of them. But there is still a question I want an answer to…

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15 responses to “YOUR ANCESTORS WERE SHEEP”

22 05 2007
Frances (20:54:09) :

Thanks Michael. I dont have time right now
to read through the entire post, or follow all the links.
But I will, either later tonight or tomorrow night.
It seems like its always been this way: 1% of the people
wanting to OWN everything…especially whats in our heads
. Theere is something funny with this comment box
it keeps expanding.

22 05 2007
christopherday (21:05:21) :

I stumbled across your post through surfing through the tags. I wanted to say that I appreciate how thought out this post is. I will admit that I am a Youth Pastor of an Evangelical church. I do honestly greatly appreciate your honesty on this.

22 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (21:12:43) :

thanks christopher. have you ever come across a writer called philip pullman?

22 05 2007
christopherday (21:19:28) :

Michael no I have not. I will confess that there are a lot of believers out there that make us look like we are all fanatical right wingers and not all of us really are.

22 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (21:29:15) :

He said this in an interview recently and i also recommend the ‘His Dark Materials’ trilogy of books to you.

Q. His Dark Materials seems to be against organised religion. Do you believe in God?

A. I don’t know whether there’s a God or not. Nobody does, no matter what they say. I think it’s perfectly possible to explain how the universe came about without bringing God into it, but I don’t know everything, and there may well be a God somewhere, hiding away.

Actually, if he is keeping out of sight, it’s because he’s ashamed of his followers and all the cruelty and ignorance they’re responsible for promoting in his name. If I were him, I’d want nothing to do with them.

22 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (21:34:24) :

i don’t think he means all followers but he certainly means church leaders (papacy etc)

BTW - i was told i was going to hell for stealing a pencil when i was 6!

22 05 2007
ClapSo (22:06:42) :

The only thing you said that I disagree with is that global warming and evolution denials are seemingly unrelated. The global warming deniers and the evolution deniers are the same fools! They use the bible as their “proof” of their silliness. The issues are clearly linked in the realm of who and in biblical source. You have however done the best job I’ve ever seen in pulling any doubt out of the connection and I thank you. You should be quite proud of this great work of yours.

22 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (22:13:42) :

thanks clapso. i meant that “at first glance” they are unrelated but if you look a bit deeper it is part of a deeper problem

22 05 2007
christopherday (22:36:00) :

Michael wow. You were told wrong. People like that anger me becuase again it shows us in a false light. We have done a lot in the “name of Christ” but haven’t really been an example of “his love” to people. Whether you believe in a God or not you have to admit that as believers (in general) we have done a fairy pathetic job of sticking to what we claim are tenets of our faith and have made a mockery of our own beliefs. It seems that everyone else has caught on to our own mockery except for us.

23 05 2007
frances (04:54:56) :

Great article, Michael. My perspective is that both scientific and religous ‘therories’ are products of human mind and therefore, suspect.
Flawed to begin with. Radical thinkers and their ideas are either shunned, locked up, or denounced as heretics. When their ideas are finally accepted into the community, it is usually a distorted version (often taken out of context and isolated from a lifetime of work) that is embraced. This is then bent to suit powers need.
At least that is how I see it.
We are all equally responsible for cleaning up the mess we have made. We’ve got lifetimes of work ahead of us. I suppose there will always be some group of slackers on the sidelines telling us its not our fault, dont worry the sky fairy’s going to save us..or whatever. In my mind its all just a distraction to keep us obliviously labouring to earn and consume. Eat sleep and dream while wars are fought and fortunes are made.
We are all related to everything and everyone. If people cant get into their heads and hearts about being related to and equal to other Human Beings how will they ever accept being equal to and related to other animals?
I hear there are debates about giving our chimpanzee friends ‘rights’…Lets start with observing the rights we all agree each of us humans are entitled to.
Btw..Philip Pullman is one of my favorite authors…I love ‘The Golden Compass’

23 05 2007
Graeme (05:39:02) :

The video worked for me. I grew with similar people. My parents are devout Christians, as is most of the people in my state (ND is full of Norwegian and German Lutherans)

My local public tv station wouldn’t show Jonathan Millers’ “a brief history of disbelief.” The first episode has an interesting interview with some anthropologist that argues that religious belief is stuck in our brain. The belief of the unseen helped to explain coincidences to our more primitive ancestors and it also helped as a defense against potential predators. Interesting indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gGUZcSHkHg&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Egraemesblog%2Ecom%2F

23 05 2007
Graeme (10:10:44) :

I love this: “The social consequences of materialism have been devastating” No shit. It’s called capitalism, not science. morons.

23 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (11:59:16) :

thanks frances.

graeme - i just managed to get hold of the miller thing. will watch it soon.

23 05 2007
Michael Bains (23:48:12) :

The “materialism” canard is the one which grates my nerves the most. They use it like Madonna’s “Material Girl”, when what they describe is actually, essentially as Graeme just wrote, Consumerism.

It’s quite convenient for believers in the supernatural that stuff of a “spiritual” “nature” is empirically unrecordable. They’ve no need to prove the unprovable.

Great post, Michael. I hope you don’t mind if, as a fellow great ape, I your video with a link to this post on my site. It was quite effective and I just wanted it to be even a bit longer!

23 05 2007
michaelgreenwell (23:53:46) :

post away michael

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